i think we have to be smart and win that fight. and the key here is being smart. and that means attaching daca legislation to reverse what trump did to legislation that the republicans need to have passed. so congressman gutierrez' point, play hard ball now when you have this as opposed to this three-month extension. there's to guarantee you'll be able to attach it. >> what we need to do. it is one thing to talk ferventbly the issues. we need 60 votes. if he is get us the 12 republican votes tomorrow, i think we're ready to move. dick durbin is working night and day on this. i think we have four or five republican votes right now.