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democrats right now in the house together to sort of come up with a fix to daca. the problem is, there's not a majority of the majority to do that. if we got rid of those rules, i think you could do some bipartisan work. but the problem is, and the congressman knows this better than i do, that the moment speaker ryan tried to do that, would he in fact not incur the wrath of the freedom caucus and put his speakership in jeopardy. >> i think he would be a hero to the american people and would be outraged if republicans said that. by the way, who's going to take his place? i mean, who? who would be foolish enough to take his place if the requirement is, you can only get something done if all republicans in the conference agree? that's just designed to fail. >> he didn't want that job either. remember, he reluctantly took that job. >> that is absolutely right.

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