victim of the witch hunt. he's been using that phrase for months. and i think that is setting us up for whatever his view of the next chapter is going to be when it's the whole world against trump. and i think that the departures of bannon and gorka from his inner circle going into the outside supports that. the establishment is emptied of his allies. he alone is there. >> right. so we were talking about this in terms of like if everything is going to explode and you get really worried and i get very concerned and then i happen to be interviewing delores about an hour or so ago, a documentary coming out about her life, supported and created by carlos santana. he's 87. has been around the block a long time. right? so when i asked her, where do we go from here? >> how scared are you? >> she's just like, you know, those 20,000 people that came out in boston to protest against the white supremacists, they were mostly anglo. so he says, that's an amazing organizing opportunity for latinos.