businesses around the country want and there are big businesses interested in it as well. i think a lot of people have baked this into their assumptions and thinking how they're going to spend. i think you can find a lot of democrats including me wanting to see some tax reform done. but it can only be done in an orderly way. i think the comments of mccain over the last few days and roy blunt all making clear has an equal role to play and the president should expect them to play that role thoroughly and -- >> autonomous, that they said buck the president when they need to, support him as well. but they are an equal cobranch of government. given this relationship it's want going so well most of the time. are they going to be able to get anything done? >> well, it all depends. on the tax reform bill you can get it through reconciliation,