dramas that are playing out for these secretaries in addition to the public statements that they're also required to respond to when the president makes them. so if you're in a situation like cohn or tillerson or mattis or any of the others, when the president is online and in sync with the policy that everyone has agreed to talk about, that's one thing. but when the president then tweets something or says something that goes counter to the discussions of the policies that puts them in a very different position. >> hugh, let me ask you this. we've seen a lot of volatility when it comes to these staff position as round the president, folks lasting only a few months on the job. when you get to these top-level appointments. you say tillerson's probably on his way out. when it's a mattis, when it's the chief of staff, there are some folks there who donald trump's brought into top-level positions who i think have bought him a little credibility with for lack of a better term the establishment. the establishment of his own party, the establishment in washington. is your read of donald trump that he values that bit of credabilities it's bought him or