didn't like trump, didn't like clinton, they went for trump, went for change. but when you look at the degree they didn't like him but still voted for him, these are folks that didn't think he was honest, competent, qualified and they still voted for him. when i look at that, i say is there something deeper that's behinding them to him that did then and is maybe now that we don't see. >> i think there's a dynamic that people were hoping he'd rise to the challenge of being president of the united states. being president is something you're not until you are president. so when you are in the office and commander in chief there are expectations for behavior, not just style but how you're dealing with foreign leaders, talking to the american public, not lying at every turn about little things and big things. so i think the american public expected him to pivot or change as we talked about in the media. that's not going to happen.