compared to what houston was able to bring to the table? >> well, you know, obviously talk about the size of the cities themselves, houston is the city of millions of people. beaumont has about 100,000. and it is obviously going to have a much smaller, local force. but you can't overstate the importance of them being cut off from supplies and resources and if you think about it, the boats that came in, the state resources that came in, even the federal, though miguel had an opportunity with the military to do some incredible things there, they're limited by helicopters. you need boats and you need a lot of them and they just aren't -- they don't have access to those numbers of resources. so you can imagine a situation where they really have to prioritize between the kind of life and death emergencies that we heard officials talk about in houston first, and then move on to the less dire situations.