we now know that in september of 2015 is when these conversations about sort of this attempt to build a trump tower in moscow begin. donald trump himself signs that letter of intent with a moscow-based development company on october 28, 2015. and then we get this e-mail from michael cohen to dimy try peskov. so what you've got a an active process during the heat of the republican primary campaign election. >> now, not only that, matt, but to your reporting on that sater e-mail which is pretty remarkable document, because it explicitly connects the two, right? it could be the case that there is a parallel that is the trump org and they are doing deals everywhere, in turkey, in the philippines. but the sater e-mail says, no, no, no, there is a direct line. if we build this and get pewter pute /- putin on board, that will get donald trump elected.