you said you would not accept a spending bill that didn't fund the wall. does that mean if we send you a spending bill, you will veto it despite the fact that the federal government's money and help is absolutely essential to the recovery to those people who were victims of hurricane harvey. and that's going to be an interesting question for the president about 30 days from now to have to consider. >> and, ron, in the past, hurricane funding has taken sometimes several months for congress to act on. it didn't used to be that way, but starting around 2005, there were some republicans led by mike pence in the house of representatives who started to say, look, if you're going to do disaster funding like this, you must make other cuts in the budget to make up for whatever money you're spending in disaster funding. prior to that, it used to be understood to be an emergency and something that the government was just going to have to spring into action on without cutting other spending.