few decades have not spent this time watching congressional testimony. this is an interesting concept that there are stunning stunnin allegations against donald trump and the trump campaign in this dossier that's not been verified. should the public have access? >> it is interesting, last time we had an investigation like this was iran contra, that was narrowed to a few media outlets, there was no cross dialogue amongst people across the country about what was out there. >> it was one way, everybody watched what information came out. >> exactly. it was very deliberate and slow. what you see now is there are parallel investigations, you have information coming out in the media before it is coming out to congress and you're hearing about subpoenas in different places, so people are trying to piece it together, and no one controls the entire situation. so what's fascinating is the level of interest from the public and also the level of confusion, you know.