with harvey at this point. back in 2005, i think everybody will recall the fact that new orleans in that coastal area with the one-two punch of ka tree -- katrina and reita. is it encouraging so far that the governor is not talking about any loss of life with the event of harvey as hitting at a cat 4 and now currently at a tropical storm. >> i think we've gotten a lot better. you have nothing but praise for fema and the state organizations in louisiana and texas and their preparedness. my -- again, my recommendation would be to mobilize more and get the troops deployed before the heavy floods come to known high ground where they can be in those counties and be prepared to respond, because what they don't know, like we didn't know in katrina until about 14 days afterwards, when we went to knock on every door of every