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there is some, especially the old growth trees, the oaks that are more than 100 years old, have come down and fallen on people's homes, in addition to the fact that we've seen some of the corrugated metal ripped off buildings as well as some of the gas stations, like the valero that has lost its overhang. but the truth is, the heavy damage that you often associate with a hurricane is not as dramatic, at least as we've seen here in victoria, because, remember, when harvey hit victoria, population of about 67,000, it was a category 1 storm, meaning that the winds were far less. it doesn't mean it's not dangerous, but it means that the potential for damage is certainly not as strong as when it's a category 3 or a category 4. the eye wall, as you know, had winds clocked up to 140, 145 miles an hour, alex. >> yeah. well, the big issue is flooding. you are appropriately standing and discussed what's going on in that river behind you.

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