talking about sheriff joe arpaio, who had served there for a quarter century in law enforcement and for most of that time has been a figure drawing a lot of criticism for racial profiling in the patrols used to try to combat illegal immigration but many say he was simply using discrimination and racial profiling to round up potential undocumented immigrants and then once those who were detained, they were put in harsh tent camps, so he's attracted lots of criticism. at the same time, there are those on the far right who believe he's been a tough law enforcement person, and they stood by him. of course immigration huge issue for president trump, and so he had signaled he would do this. one of the things that makes it so interesting, ali, is that typically pardons go through a department of justice process. the president's power on this is clear, but normally there are lots of channels where people review a potential pardon. it takes time. this conviction of federal