metaphorically. i can't see how they can work with that. this is a president who doesn't really understand legislative process. isn't interested in it and doesn't realize, i guess, how bad it would be for him and his party if they did proceed to a government shutdown somehow. >> then heidi, there's the question of the votes in the mexican congress. i don't know what your mexican congressional whip count in at this point and time and how prepared you are to talk about it on national television but this is how prepared the white house press secretary. maybe it was all fan fiction during the campaign but now we're in it. it's real about whether mexico will pay for it. take a listen to sarah huckabee sanders. >> does that mean he's abandoning any efforts to negotiate with mexico, any payment? >> i don't think any efforts have been abandoned. >> he's not saying that mexico is going to pay for it. >> he hasn't said they're not either. >> we've gone from mexico will