government shutdowns are historically a really losing approach for them. back to the time of newt ginrich when he was doing this with bill clinton. so there was no appetite at least within the republicans in the senate and probably many in the house for again attaching themselves to trump on an issue where they think the public is not with them and the electorate they have to face thap thap. that's another source of cleavage. >> david k. johnston it can be o could be thely shut down the government to pay for the wall is the latest version of mexico will pay for the wall it is at empty a threat. >> absolutely. there is -- as we know know way mexico will pay for the wall and donald's original proposal of a tariff meant we would pay for it. but i would be surprised at this point if anyone in congress certainly mitch mcconnell and paul ryan is going to use up one ounce of political capital to help donald get the wall built. just not going to happen. and tonight in this audience