>> their salaries are capped at $160,000 a year, evan. 42 people are being protected now total, 18 of them trump family members. but arguably this is what a lot of republicans say this is the same problem we've had under every administration. is that so? >> this is, but it is magnified some. i know a lot of republicans criticize president obama for the trips he and his family took and said oh it's cost this much and that much. but i believe -- >> usually very inflated figure, by the way. >> and i believe that we should not be criticizing president trump on this at all. the safety of him and his family is paramount to the nation. you may not like him as president but it's important that we never have any sort of tragedy because that would just be an absolute catastrophe for us, and you don't want a president having something happen to a member of their family that could xomp mize their ability to lead the nation at a key and critical time. >> evan, caitlyn, great having both of you. up mex, "money, power,