i don't really have a comment on what mr. bannon's remarks were in that particular interview. i think we have been quite clear what the policy and posture toward north korea is. >> the secretary of state talking about that wide ranging and shocking interview that steve bannon gave. he said he didn't realize he was on the record. joining me now by phone, talking about the developments and steve ban nonbeing gone, so receistev went on to the american prospect website. what follows is the article that likely pushed steve ban non, the architect of his white nationalist messaging out of the white house door. is that what happened here?