and then publicly hem and haw and figure out a way to sort of smooth over hurt feelings in the white house. that's not what this is about. this is about how you hold a country together. this is your lincoln moment as a republican, mr. president. >> joining us to talk about this, former u.s. republican congressman david jolly of florida and jonathan lamire from the ap has agreed to stay here with us. congressman, you've been on a ballot with that "r" after your name. how are you feeling about your party and your country after the weekend we just witnessed? >> michael is right. this is a defining moment. this president has given validation to an alt right white nationalist movement and waited two days too long to denounce it. bigger picture, though, brian, listen, republicans right now are facing a reminder that this president is unprepared to lead. on saturday they knew he was