this. when it's white supremacist, he denounces them by name and republicans are going to speak out more and more day by day here until this -- we see something different come in from this guy who was failing the moral test of leadership we expect in a president. >> you make a remark about john mccain, just part of his statement from earlier this evening. mccain said nothing less is at stake on the streets of charlottesville, virginia, where a violent attack has taken one american life and injured many others between our better angels and our worst demons. white supremacist and neo-nazis are opposed to the american patrioti patriotism. we expect the president to do the right thing and do the right thing bench mark is not the same thing for all people, apparently. joel, great to have you with me and to see you in person, ali,