it was for them. that is the fabric of america. this underbelly, this dark side of america is always been there. probably always will be there. but what this president has done is give these people voice and credibility to come out and act out on their violence. which is just horrific. >> peter emerson, thank you very much. and kirsten hagland, thank you for joining me and we look forward to having you back under better circumstances. we're going to continue our breaking news coverage about what happened in charlottesville, virginia, today, that state under a state of emergency because of the violence surrounding this alt right rally where now one person has died after a car plowed into a group that was there counter-protesting what they considered this message of hate and extremism from white nationalists. coming up, i'm going to speak with the former mayor of charlottesville next. what's with him?