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working with the big six, as they are known, in helping behind the scenes to drum up support at the grass roots conservative level to get across their next big policy agenda item which is getting tax reform across. the first point i would make is republicans on capitol hill from their staffs to members of congress are frustrated every time president trump suggests or criticizes or goes off on twitter, so to speak, and takes away from their ability to use the republican controlled congress to pass a conservative agenda. on the flip side of that, there are conservatives all around the country sitting at home looking at why tax reform hasn't been done and why health care reform wasn't done. that's a frustration at the base. president trump wants to eease the concerns of his base. that's what you're seeing develop during this august recess. >> sounds like you're seeing there's two sets of

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