heilemann, trump versus manafort today. "national enquirer" comes out with a slam on paul manafort. that strikes me as the same thing as a trump tweet. >> i think that's probably right. i think you made the point earlier it could be counterproductive because why do you want manafort to be alienated from you and potentially want to flip. we've never seen anything like this before. you asked before about the politics of it. if you're sitting in the white house right now, washington has seen a lot of special prosecutors. a lot of special independent counsels. never in the reagan era, in the bush era, in the clinton era, we've never seen dawn raids with search warrants. never before. so if you're in the white house where there's already a lot of pressure and everybody has started to lawyer up or is already lawyered up, this again in terms of the political pressure on those people in that building, extraordinarily greater. >> robert mueller surely knows that he's the first special prosecutor to authorize a raid like this. he surely knows in the pre precedence, it's never been