there kind of pushing that narrative. but i think this report is pretty true that, you know, he and other people, i think, are kind of testing the waters, and i think a lot of donors in particular, people who haven't been satisfied with the way president trump has been conducting business are kind of looking to him and saying, okay, what if, and kind of playing those parlor games. and i think that's a typical washington kind of story. >> lexi, why feel even the need to respond to a speculative article that could be considered sort of an inside the beltway parlor game? do you think anyone at this point cares about 2020? >> i don't think they are thinking about 2020 too much yet, but i think it speaks to the loyalty issue within the white house. trump has always valued loyalty and we've seen he's fired people when he perceived they are not loyal to him, so i think in order to reassure trump and the base voters that, you know, pence is still loyal to trump, he has to release a statement. otherwise it looks like the white house is in disarray if