the fact that he knows public policy. he understands how government works, and so he would certain i will be a threat, however, given that he is the vice president and he is tied to trump, we will beat him. i think he can be beaten, but i also just want to say that the rumor is that he is getting ready. maybe he believes that something might happen and he should be ready to step in, or that he can run in 2020 and win. so i don't think we should be concerned about him. trump should be concerned about him. >> you are obviously very bold in terms of pronouncements about impeachment. democrats tend to shrink from the idea of talking about impeachment. >> it's a big idea, a very serious one, and i think they're very careful. they don't want to alienate