his protest, there's is no historical precedent for that. >> and speaking of that, tonight we have this huge "washington post" story that donald trump in the service of trying to end this investigation or curtail it, actually came up with the talking points that his son, donald jrunior, used to excuse this meeting involving eight people, including multiple russians tied to the kremlin. what do you make of that? >> it sounds very much in character for donald trump. very much like richard nixon. john ehrlich, nixon's aide, who finally went to prison for a year and a half in the watergate scandal said in retrospect, nixon couldn't keep his hands off a cover-up. he wanted to be involved. there's no way you would have gotten him away from this. so the suggestion that donald trump is, you know, trying to pull the strings, to keep russia from being investigated, doesn't sound so hard to believe. and the question, of course, comes back to, what is it is that he's afraid of? what is so terrible in terms of