trump someone who is likely to listen to even a four-star general, former four-star general, when he says, hold off a little bit here? >> well, as donald trump likes to say, time will tell. i do agree with general clark that this is -- kelly is probably the best person he could possibly have in here. what general kelly really needs to do is to get donald trump to start thinking about the projects and the legislative agenda, the things he wants to accomplish as president, the same way he must have been thinking about real estate projects. real estate projects, especially on his scale, were incredibly difficult, because you have permitting, labor issues, contractors. you have laborers. you have the court cases. you have imminent domain. you have all kinds of things. and donald trump wasn't the guy who was going to town hall and pulling permits and fighting the epa in court, et cetera, et cetera. he had good people doing those things. so the general has to get him to think about how we can use our assets, as he likes to say, our