tell us about victim empathy and alternative to violence and how lit benefit you in the future. >> as i said, the alternative to violence course is -- i've always thought i've been pretty good with people and i basically have spent a conflict-free life, you know. i'm not a guy that ever got in fights on the street and with the public and everybody. but as i said, they give you a bunch of little tools about how to talk to people instead of fighting, instead of throwing punches, tools that i've used here that, you know, it's how you talk to people, the tone that you use. the victim empathy was once again i didn't really see that in this case -- i didn't really see that alford beardsley but, ah, really affected by it all, but bruce was affected. you know, bruce was -- i saw that he was affected and as i said, i would have done anything, anything not to have that happen.