president and the president's son-in-law. they feel good because he has the ear of the president. a lot of these issues are intractable, there's a reason they haven't been solved for a long time. i'm told jared kushner looks at the middle east issue as a real estate issue. and real estate is part of it. but president obama says, you can't want it more than the negotiators want it. you have to persuade people to take risks, bb, the palestinians. and that isn't about reali estate. it's about understanding the kind of courage it takes to make deals that could potentially hurt you. >> philip, i'm wondering if you believe that this set-up in the white house is ultimately kind of designed to fail. i keep saying we've never seen a flow chart like this, and you could say that times about five.