for health care than all other developed countries and rich countries and things like that. i've heard some democrats talk about moving to a single payer system when, in fact, what we need to achieve is universal coverage of some sort. single payer is just one piece of that. what should the democrats' strategy be to say, hey, the parts of obamacare that worked we should be doing more of without triggering republican ire because they decided single payer is socialist medicine. >> first of all, i think everybody should have access to health care and it should be universal. the issue is what should we get done right now. in that segment we talked about the individual market is part of the affordable care act, theres a plan working very well in new york right now called the basic plan or essential plan. so families there are buying insurance for about $500 of an annual premium. and basically what new york did is bundled up a population, so there's 650,000 people and