seller at gorilla, especially for the government customer looking for those special recycled products. >> there is so much opportunity in the government sector, so, you know, we are always looking for new contracts, new segments of business that we can get involved with. >> another way to find out if indeed you want to work with a government agency and if you're qualified to is to go to a how to class run by the organization. >> if you don't understand how to do business with an agency they regularly have classes, you know, how to do business with this agency, what paperwork they are required. >> and there is the dreaded word, "paperwork." >> it's government so it is going to be -- it's all about the paper unfortunately. she had some experience so she knew what she was up against and she understood the system. for somebody that's starting out totally new, it takes a while. >> linda says once all that paperwork is figured out and that first government contract is snagged, getting others to