but how do you avoid that when they're yelling through doors? you can't make them not talk. >> while men and women are not allowed out at the same time, they inevitably draw each other's attention. [ laughter ] >> this the only unit this has male and females in it. and after a while, you can't prevent everything. >> i can't go past this blue. >> we try our best to stop inmates from going up to the door, but they watch us just as much as we watch them. and if we get distracted by something else, they'll run up. human nature. talking to somebody, especially when you're in a concrete room by yourself, you're going to find somebody to talk to. >> i love you. what's up? >> sometimes inmates communicate through the vent system. and since mcdonald's new boyfriend lives in the cell above hers, that gives them a direct line of communication. >> what you doing? >> speaking to you. >> they say that we're not supposed to communicate with the females. but it's to the point where you don't control it.