this is not what mitch mcconnell wanted. >> right. >> so that's also different from the house bill when people kind of -- the activists gave up and they didn't have to face town halls anymore. suddenly it seemed safe to vote for it. >> evan, it's friday night. i don't want to put you on the spot to be too metaphysical. but when the republican new proposal is repeal now, but it wouldn't kick in now, is that now really? >> no. it creates uncertainty in the market, and you're going to see premiums skyrocket and insurance companies trying to take advantage of that. and there will be such a fog of war for lack of a better term that nobody will be helped by that. republicans in the senate at least did not want to do health care reform at this point in time. they wanted to do tax reform first because when you fight -- or when democrats were to fight tax reform, it's a standard line that doesn't really register as much as oh, giveaways of taxpayer dollars to your corporate overlords, whereas when you start doing health care, it's a visceral and combustible thing that people feel. their own health care impacts them directly.