the other challenge is when obamacare was put in, obama promised the american people he would never raise taxes on anyone who leaearned less than $250,000 a year yet when you look at the tax increase that fund obamacare they're devastating on middle and lower income americans, starting with the eight million americans today who are hit with a $600 to $2,000 tax for nothing. they get nothing. it's the punishment because they refuse to buy or don't choose to buy obama's specified health care. >> but you know that that's not a tax, right? i understand your larger point that people are being caused to pay something but if we're going to be highly specific about it, it's not a tax. >> the only reason it was not ruled unconstitutional was that it was a tax so you can't play it both ways. the irs takes the money for from you it.