argument that they need to do something, even if it doesn't benefit everyone? >> he doesn't. there's no way to square anything. >> i guess the question is does anything he says matter? and i think the answer is no. >> as colin paul said about iraq, you break it, you buy it. what the republicans are doing right now, they are about to own this thing. the way the democrats have owned this thing. they are about to discover the problems that the affordable care act was attempting to attack were fairly intractable problems that governors, republicans and democrats alike have to deal with every single day. so they are now going to inherit and bob was totally right. the big number on this is not the deficit numbers. it's not the 22 million by 2026. it's next year. 15 million people are getting whacked off the roles.