have increased because the marketplace is not healthy. arizona, 116% increase in premiums year over year between 2016 and 2017. nationally between 2014 and today. not sustainable for the middle class. >> what about the working class? what about working class americans that actually benefited a great deal from being able to have obamacare? >> i think the house bill was problematic for them, no question about it. the senate bill does something clever, we're going to it adjust base d on income. taking it down to the poverty line, more people will be eligible for subsidies under the senate bill than under obamacare. that is true. it's not perfect. there are some things they have not been able to get right yet.