time again many of these cases involve officer-created jeopardy. as we have this discussion we need to insist that prosecution includes an examination of the deviations from police protocol, from policy, from tactics, all those deviations when you add them up and you examine them and you delve deeply into them will put the prosecution in a position to establish some kind of criminal conduct. up until now what we have is an examination of the victim's background in life and whether or not -- >> we're in many ways putting the victims on trial. >> eugene, i like mark am not a lawyer and i don't play one on television, but the fact is that the laws give too much room -- i think one of the things we raised in 2014 at the big march in washington was dealing with the federal laws on civil rights, i'm talking about national action network, naacp