the premarket cannot purely resolve these problems? why? why does the free market work? when consumers shop effectively? when you're in an plambulance w heart attack you can't shop for health insurance. tht n t tht. >> ambulance on the way to the hospital? >> that is how it works. you can't have a free market health care and have it work. >> health care decision are decided long before people are in an ambulance. >> not true. absolutely not true! >> what about building promise that president trump made that he wouldn't touch medicare? he wouldn't touch -- what about that promise that was made time and time again? >> he shouldn't have made the promise. look. touching medicare -- it depend on you what mean by touching medicare. if you want to make it to fix it. i'm not for getting required of medicaid or medicare. medicaid is welfare. medicare is something we decided that old -- >> you just defined welfare as