and i think it is a cut because a lot less people will be getting medicaid benefits. one of the key numbers from the last cbo report is that 14 million americans will no long he have medicaid. if you want to know about the cut, who is covered under the program. with the big changes being proposed in the house bill, it sounds like it will be quite similar in the senate bill, you can't cover the same number of people. it is true that clinton did endorse a per capita method like representative burgess was talking about, but one of the things is how quickly you growal of money for each person. and under the republican bill, it is a very small amount that states would be getting for each medicaid enrollee. >> the politics of this are in flux. what is your sense of how this will play out? it seems it is the riskiest part of whole process. >> we definitely have senate republican in addition position