around to be he's getting hurt by investigations without being proven guilty. the very fact of being investigating, he made it into a crime. >> the irony here is, of course, there is no way -- >> how tall are you? >> maybe they forgot it move it down. they usually move it down. anyway, i'll slouch a little bit. >> no, doubt. i'm okay. >> it's classic what about-ism, but the thing about hillary is there's no way they could have put this many tentacles on an e-mail server. this investigation is going to so many different knots that we're going to be tied up for years. regardless of what the republican plans were, i don't think we could have ever imagined this sprawling an investigative body over hillary clinton. >> and i don't think the -- it's hard to do the apples and oranges here, but there's an element of not treason but something like it. if he's guilty, which i don't know yet, if he's guilty of having consorted with the russians in any way to help them screw with our election, that's