pledges he made about blind trust. >> absolutely he did. he hasn't put his properties into a blind trust, period. >> is that something you can do when you have a corporation, can you put in a blind trust, is it doable? >> you could with a corporation, widely held, but not with the kind of companies that he has. >> what should he have done to avoid the hastle he's in right now with you? >> that's where -- >> what could he have done to avoid this. >> he could have sold all the properties that yield payments from foreign governments. >> sold the whole trump empire. >> and you think he would have done that, that was -- >> i signed up for this. he never said he would do that. >> it doesn't matter what he said. it matters what the constitution says. >> paul, what's your thinking about this and what he's done wrong what the remedy might be for what he has done. there needs to be one. >> really important case. there are a lot of open legal questions, the supreme court has never decided a case in which interpreted the clause. the monument clause means that the president can't get gifts from foreign governments. another question is, what's a