>> we met numerous victim of the heartless felon, a gang best known for stealing commissary items from other inmates and often those thefts were accompanied by violence. >> slapped me. >> one guy steal it divide it up in three, four different cells. like a lion out hunting, one lion might not eat today but take part in the hunt or eat what's left over. this is how they are. >> but the heartless felons say stealing is against their rules. >> one thing the heartless felons, don't steal. we take, we take it while they're there. we don't steal something, we don't do. >> chatman, who is awaiting trial for aggravated murder, to which he pled not guilty, clarified the heartless felons don't steal, they take. >> stealing is going behind somebody back and taking it. taking is going in their face, telling this mine if you want to fight, we can fight. if you are going to do something about it, do something about it. >> pierre, if i'm holding this