though i'm not sure that's really been the subject of conversation. >> what's your take on that, eli? >> it depends on what we're talking about. depending the president said, if there were other people, not myself, meddling with russia, yeah, i want to know that. that gives him a little credibility, saying he wasn't trying to squash the russia probe. but comey made it plain, as it reta pertained to mike flynn, the president put his hand on his shoulder, so to speak, and said, it'd be nice if you could do this. comey said, i took it as a direction. >> when it comes to mike flynn, why is the president so loyal to him? >> i have been trying to understand the things this president does and speculate why he does what he does. it is a fruitless exercise, trying to get inside his mind. but i think he strangely is loyal to certain people, and then disloyal to others. he's very quick to throw other members of his team under the bus. jeff sessions is a great example. he was the first member of the senate to endorse him and sign on. we've heard he is fuming at him. but i think the president doesn't like to have his hand