you pointed out it is a privilege ofheresint. you don't have the privilege on your own behalf unless you're asserting the fifth amendment. >> how can the senate -- compel it? >> you can always go for contempt. >> they're not going to do that? >> i don't think so. what they are probably likely to do is a low conversation between lawyers to say, look, what the hill is the issue and can we do it in closed hearing? >> over lunch the lawyers probably called these two and say you can't do that. the senate does what it so often does is have conversations behind closed doors. they classify things that shouldn't be classified. >> could be. >> that denies the american people -- we do pay their salaries. >> sure, but this is all going to come out. >> i know. anyway, it's like pulling teeth sometimes. anyway, thank you both. five hours after the comey testimony went public and still no tweets from president trump, are you surprised? at last, how will he handle the big hearing tomorrow? we're going to talk about it with howard dean and hu