norms and also guidelines. the president doesn't seem to function along those lines. >> no, and with respect to particularly to the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein and director comey, they have both spent, i think in rod rosenstein a case, all of his career and in director comey's case, nearly all of his career at the department of justice. so they will personally have a lot of loyalty to the department, and they will want to ensure its independence in situations like this. >> amy jeffress, thank you for making some time tonight. appreciate it. joining me now republican strategist stevechmidt and mckay smith. a very interesting piece. what trump really fears. the president faces an open-ended investigation that may uncover their excesses. the reporting tonight about his frustration with sessions recusing himself dovetails to my theory of things which is