to people who live in london and understandably so. they are -- they have been under attack. having said that, does it play in many ways when people don't go to the businesses who are in those neighborhoods, or the publicity gets out there, just the fact that someone was able to take a car or a van or whatever they have and drive it into a crowd of people and run into that crowd with a knife, again, very unsophisticated. not like putting together a bomb. does that play into whether it's isis or any other terror group's hands? >> well, i'll tell you, i have two daughters and i really very much worry now about them going into popular places. i lived for a year in borough market. it's not just about london, it's belgium, france, germany. i mean, it is -- and we talk about attacks in london and we should.