foundation of facts are. we're not attributing our movement to that necessarily. but sometimes you've got to move ahead, otherwise you'll be left behind. that's what the antiterrorism police are about. >> jim, have you been able to watch the video we've been broadcasting? >> no, i haven't seen it. >> the video is interesting, because the arc of it has been pretty consistent. we've not seen running. we've seen pedestrians walking for the most part. we've seen law enforcement vehicles come at basically the same pace. however we've seen an accumulation in the last now two hours. of course it's almost impossible to determine whether it's double the amount or, you know, 50% more, whatever the case may be. we've seen increase in vehicles. but many of the pedestrians walking in an orderly fashion. as i was speaking with joe dillon, he was clearly running from london bridge because he was so close by. our own producer, mo abbas, when