officials who have been on tv on a near daily basis being dishonest with the american people on issues from big to small, i think they're going to have great difficulty because this special counsel is going to get to the bottom of what went on here. >> you know, one of the things that's developing now, as i've said, i know it's an old fogy's comment, but it's like a polaroid picture developing. you're starting to get this overlap. now today, mike isikoff who is coming on in the second part of this program, he's broken the story for yahoo that the second they got into office, the first thing they did -- you talk about showing you've got involvement with the russians. first thing i want to do is get rid of all the sanctions. they went to the state department and said draw up a list of everything nice we could do to fluff up the russians. everything you could do to make them happy. it certainly looked like a payoff. it really did look like that. >> i don't know if it's a payoff, but it's pretty extraordinary. you come into office. there's a pretty long to-do