decision under the jobs argument. this is not the first time that the issue of jobs is pitted against environmental concerns. and you and i have been around long enough to know, when given the choice, the voter is usually going to side with the jobs argument over the environmental, a utility. there is no urgency on the right, period. how do you develop a sense of urgency? >> well, first of all, that's the wrong argument. we have proven over time from 1990 to 2008, we were able to see our population grow 20%. our electricity demands grow by 35% west more than doubled our gdp and at the same time reduced pollutants by 60%. this idea that you can't have a healthy thriving economy with a clean and green environment is wrong. that's one of the few things said today that i agree with.