knowledge or information. if you look through our nbc reporting, it's not clear there would ever be a subpoena or anything like that if, in fact, he decided not to cooperate with this. i think you're seeing a lot more high-level focus on some of these other members of the trump inner circle. michael flynn obviously someone we've talked a lot about. i spoke to a source close to flynn yesterday who said they are going to start producing these documents on a rolling basis. the deadline for them to start doing that is on june 6. then you have jared kushner who said, okay, i'm willing to talk to these committees. a little more private, but clearly has burst into the headlines in the last week, and is going to become a point of increasing scrutiny, katy. >> there's another name we have heard before that the white house was trying to distance itself from. that is carter page. but donald trump brought him up today unsolicited in a tweet. he said, so now it is reported that the democrats who have