you know, to me that is not a denial. what do you make of all of this? >> it's clearly not a denial nor have they denied the report that you just made reference to. so i think again the forms that mr. kushner filled out for his security clearance are very serious. if you lie on that form, it's a felony punishable up to five years in prison. this is serious, when someone gets a national security clearance, they are -- they receive very confidential, sensitive information that's important to the national security of the united states. it should be taken seriously. the idea that there have been a number of contacts that he has simply not reported raises a question, what are you hiding? if in fact all you were doing is trying to create a back channel to talk about syria, then why did you not reveal those contacts as you're required to do, and why was it necessary to do it outside of the normal intelligence and diplomatic and state department infrastructure? this is very unusual. i think when you couple it with all the other things we know